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Thursday, March 25, 2004
  hey guys- need comments on this play last night in nl tourney. (i can take it:>). i really didn't think this guy would call all the way to the river after i bet out on the overcards. i went from chip lead to out quick. appreciate any and all comments:


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Hand #1275090-125 at Wed1030pmA-005 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 25/Mar/04 00:36:05

feldliss is at seat 1 with 14295.
teeze33 is at seat 2 with 3835.
ousooner72 is at seat 3 with 4000.
tadpole1 is at seat 4 with 17450.
uup115 is at seat 5 with 10375.
lacourneuve is at seat 6 with 5670.
daisy cutter is at seat 7 with 15565.
gatoraces is at seat 8 with 8945.
cruz38 is at seat 9 with 4005.
The button is at seat 5.

feldliss posts ante (25).
tadpole1 posts ante (25).
ousooner72 posts ante (25).
teeze33 posts ante (25).
daisy cutter posts ante (25).
lacourneuve posts ante (25).
uup115 posts ante (25).
cruz38 posts ante (25).
gatoraces posts ante (25).
daisy cutter posts the small blind of 150.
gatoraces posts the big blind of 300.

feldliss: -- --
teeze33: -- --
ousooner72: -- --
tadpole1: Ah 5s
uup115: -- --
lacourneuve: -- --
daisy cutter: -- --
gatoraces: -- --
cruz38: -- --

Pre-flop:

cruz38 folds. feldliss folds. teeze33 folds.
ousooner72 folds. tadpole1 calls. uup115 raises to
600. lacourneuve folds. daisy cutter calls.
gatoraces folds. tadpole1 calls.

Flop (board: 3c 4c Ks):

daisy cutter checks. tadpole1 bets 300. uup115
folds. daisy cutter calls.

Turn (board: 3c 4c Ks Ad):

daisy cutter checks. tadpole1 bets 1800. daisy
cutter calls.

River (board: 3c 4c Ks Ad Ac):

daisy cutter checks. tadpole1 bets 6525. daisy
cutter goes all-in for 12840. tadpole1 calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

tadpole1 shows Ah 5s.
daisy cutter shows 7c 6c.




Showdown:

tadpole1 has Ah 5s Ks Ad Ac: three aces.
daisy cutter has 7c 6c 3c 4c Ac: flush, ace high.


Hand #1275090-125 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
daisy cutter wins 32205 with flush, ace high.

I think you shouldn't been in the hand. Calling with A5o from MP position is a mistake IMHO, you could be raised and forced to pay more to see the flop and/or run into an ace with a better kicker.

In this case your opponent flopped a gut-shot straight draw and flush draw (13 outs, if he believes you don't have a bigger flush draw), so he had the pot odds to call you on the flop and turn. You could have bet stronger and pick up the pot on the turn, but the risk of running into a bigger ace prohibited that, I guess.

I think you both did overplay your hands; allthough he ended up winning he would have lost to a any other flush, half a dozen different types of boats, quad aces or 5c2c for straight flush. To you, list of better hands additionally includes 52 for a wheel and any ace with a stronger kicker. Pushing so much chips when so many hands can beat mine is not how I like to play, at least not until the final table.

Should not have been playing with the A-5. You were the chip leader, so no need to screw around. That was a textbook example of how to piss a stack away, no offense intended. A friend of mine just starting playing NL poker. His biggest problem is in managing a big stack. He gets a big head, plays too many cards, and tries to bully people. He winds of losing his stack quickly.

agreed, once i was in it felt all wrong. then it was hard to drop out once the ace fell. it's my 3rd tournament and i'm having a hard time managing the larger blinds and playing too much when i have a good stack. appreciate the comments.  

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