Thanks for the response. I realize that many hours are required to establish long term win rates and yes, many players fail to take it into consideration. They beat the game 2,3,4 times running and they think they are ready to go pro. This crazy game of Texas holdem has so many facets to it that it can be mind boggeling to me. The type of game, the game texture, even the days of the week one plays are all factors, don't you think. I know that the weekend action where I play is much easier than sitting down with the local grinders on week nights.